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parshooter 10/12/2009 12:36:00 PM | Just wondering if anyone has Breeder's cup race specific UDM strategies. Along the lines of the UDM's posted specifically for the Kentucky Derby. I realize that BC moves around tracks. Or would you advise that Santa Anita races would be the best database? Breeder's Cup weekend is so challenging and has such good wagering possiblities any group assistance may benefit all. Wayne
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Charlie James 10/12/2009 6:06:46 PM | I think Jeff has a couple of posts over the years where he advocates a strategy of looking deeper for contenders in the BC than you normally would capping a typical Sat race card. I have BC card files for about the past 5 yrs and can second that.
If you simply bet every horse at 10-1 or more in that time I think you'd be a net winner.
If you did something really simple on BC day like limiting contenders to the top half of the field in AFR and apply a divisor of 1.5 or 1.2 your roi goes through the roof.
If I remember right last year Jeff caught Desert Code at 35-1.
Two years ago when the BC was run in the mud at MTH Jeff sat in on a paceadvantage.com panel with Rich Rosa from Handicapping OS, Joe Riddel from PTC, and figure maker John Del Riccio.
I remember listening in. My favorite part was when Jeff gave out Now Now Now and everybody else on the call told Jeff he was nuts. Jeff got the last laugh: I think that horse won the next day at 11-1.
Jeff, I know you're really busy. Speaking strictly for myself I'd love it if you put something together for BC again.
Chuck
~Edited by: Charlie James on: 10/12/2009 at: 6:05:14 PM~
~Edited by: Charlie James on: 10/12/2009 at: 6:06:46 PM~
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Ishmael 10/16/2009 11:35:33 AM | Just remember they are running on the fake stuff (dont get me started) so going to be real hard comparing to past BC's
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jeff 11/4/2009 1:04:38 PM | I've compiled a database spanning the past 9 Breeder's Cup cards.... 2000-2008. The database includes both Fri cards from 2007 & 2008.
First, some numbers...
query start: 11/4/2009 9:50:44 AM query end: 11/4/2009 9:50:46 AM elapsed time: 2 seconds ~ Data Window Settings: 999 Divisor Odds Cap: None Surface: (ALL*) Distance: (All*) From Index File: C:\BreedersCupHistory\BC2\pl_BreedersCup_00-08.txt ~
Data Summary Win Place Show Mutuel Totals 2353.20 2261.70 2152.40 Bet -2586.00 -2586.00 -2586.00 Gain -232.80 -324.30 -433.60 ~ Wins 118 234 351 Plays 1293 1293 1293 PCT .0913 .1810 .2715 ~ ROI 0.9100 0.8746 0.8323 Avg Mut 19.94 9.67 6.13 ~ ~ **************************************************************************************** Key Factors Rank = 1 sorted by Factor Name Run Date: 11/4/2009 9:50:46 AM **************************************************************************************** WIN WIN WIN PLACE PLACE FACTOR PLAYS WINS PCT IMPACT ROI PLACES PCT ROI **************************************************************************************** AFR 117 18 0.1538 1.6853 1.6432 30 0.2564 1.2171 ALCHEMY 117 15 0.1282 1.4048 0.5291 26 0.2222 0.5466 AVGBRISFIG 121 25 0.2066 2.2638 0.7302 38 0.314 0.7851 AVGE1 127 9 0.0709 0.7769 0.622 21 0.1654 0.6043 BESTE2 124 8 0.0645 0.7068 0.1988 25 0.2016 0.8524 BETTORSTOTEPROB 117 38 0.3248 3.559 0.9953 51 0.4359 0.8654 BRIS10 149 24 0.1611 1.7653 0.6419 34 0.2282 0.5674 BRIS3 140 21 0.15 1.6436 0.5043 35 0.25 0.5889 CFA 117 15 0.1282 1.4048 0.4744 30 0.2564 0.6175 CLASSCOMPOS 124 16 0.129 1.4135 0.6056 31 0.25 0.9504 CLASSCONSENSUS 125 26 0.208 2.2792 0.8224 37 0.296 0.7376 CLOSINGRATIO 125 9 0.072 0.7889 0.3656 18 0.144 0.6468 CMI 117 11 0.094 1.03 0.5731 24 0.2051 0.791 COMPOUNDAP 117 21 0.1795 1.9669 0.8504 36 0.3077 0.9128 COMPOUNDE1 117 12 0.1026 1.1243 0.6359 27 0.2308 0.9774 COMPOUNDE2 117 15 0.1282 1.4048 0.7611 32 0.2735 1.1073 COMPOUNDLATE 117 18 0.1538 1.6853 0.6594 23 0.1966 0.6214 COMPOUNDPERCENTE 117 13 0.1111 1.2174 1.1316 25 0.2137 1.1098 COMPOUNDSP 117 23 0.1966 2.1543 0.8829 36 0.3077 0.8868 COMPOUNDTT 117 18 0.1538 1.6853 1.0021 35 0.2991 1.0406 CONSISTENCY 117 26 0.2222 2.4348 0.9282 37 0.3162 0.7859 CPACE 118 8 0.0678 0.7429 0.5492 19 0.161 0.5657 CXN 117 10 0.0855 0.9369 0.6073 32 0.2735 1.2718 EARLYCONSENSUS 125 14 0.112 1.2273 0.844 30 0.24 1.0512 FASTSLOWFINAL 169 25 0.1479 1.6206 0.6201 42 0.2485 0.7595 FASTSLOWPACE 156 17 0.109 1.1944 1.1157 40 0.2564 1.4381 FIGCONSENSUS 124 22 0.1774 1.9439 0.6202 36 0.2903 0.7004 FORM 129 11 0.0853 0.9347 0.507 23 0.1783 0.6271 FORMCONSENSUS 128 17 0.1328 1.4552 1.6648 29 0.2266 1.2188 JPR 117 18 0.1538 1.6853 0.5427 33 0.2821 0.6397 JPRCLASS 117 20 0.1709 1.8727 0.6444 31 0.265 0.6705 JPRMLPROB 117 20 0.1709 1.8727 0.5868 33 0.2821 0.6342 JPRTOTEPROB 117 37 0.3162 3.4648 0.9423 52 0.4444 0.8752 JRATING 118 16 0.1356 1.4859 0.561 32 0.2712 0.7767 LASTRACEBRISFIG 140 23 0.1643 1.8003 0.645 40 0.2857 0.8389 LATECONSENSUS 124 15 0.121 1.3259 0.5254 26 0.2097 0.6839 LATEPACE3 257 27 0.1051 1.1516 0.6714 52 0.2023 0.9533 LATEPACEINLAST 126 14 0.1111 1.2174 0.4853 26 0.2063 0.6556 LATESLANT 118 17 0.1441 1.579 0.5699 24 0.2034 0.4678 LOGICALFIG 120 14 0.1167 1.2788 0.75 30 0.25 0.9388 MORNINGLINE 118 35 0.2966 3.25 0.8555 51 0.4322 0.8657 OPTIMIZATION 133 13 0.0977 1.0706 0.5647 26 0.1955 0.7891 PACEFIG 119 17 0.1429 1.5658 1.0021 36 0.3025 1.229 PACEFIG_2F_INLAST 133 8 0.0602 0.6596 0.7395 27 0.203 1.059 PACEFIG_4F_INLAST 124 13 0.1048 1.1484 0.827 33 0.2661 1.2786 PACEFIT 117 12 0.1026 1.1243 0.6359 26 0.2222 0.9551 PACELINE 148 23 0.1554 1.7028 0.552 43 0.2905 0.7139 PAL 128 18 0.1406 1.5406 0.652 29 0.2266 0.7242 PCLASS 118 26 0.2203 2.414 0.9568 40 0.339 0.8627 PCTE 125 7 0.056 0.6136 0.6872 17 0.136 0.5532 PEDIGREE 253 24 0.0949 1.0399 0.949 49 0.1937 1.0136 PMI 117 15 0.1282 1.4048 0.988 25 0.2137 0.6363 POST TIME FAVS 123 38 0.3089 3.3848 0.9069 56 0.4553 0.9004 POWERCONSENSUS 126 20 0.1587 1.739 0.7087 31 0.246 0.621 PRATING 117 21 0.1795 1.9669 0.7543 34 0.2906 0.8009 PRIME 233 28 0.1202 1.3171 0.97 59 0.2532 0.9903 QRATING 117 21 0.1795 1.9669 0.744 36 0.3077 1.0094 QSPEEDPOINTS 300 30 0.1 1.0958 1.0017 58 0.1933 1.0113 RACESTRENGTH 117 13 0.1111 1.2174 0.4261 22 0.188 0.6043 STAMINA 118 14 0.1186 1.2996 1.1623 25 0.2119 0.9559 SUSTAINED 133 21 0.1579 1.7302 0.7707 28 0.2105 0.5515 TPACE 123 17 0.1382 1.5143 0.8654 32 0.2602 1.0451 TURNTIME 124 10 0.0806 0.8832 0.6258 24 0.1935 0.769 UPR 117 22 0.188 2.06 0.8466 32 0.2735 0.7479 UPRMLPROB 117 23 0.1966 2.1543 0.738 33 0.2821 0.6573 UPRTOTEPROB 117 33 0.2821 3.0911 0.8714 44 0.3761 0.7368 USERFACTOR1 117 6 0.0513 0.5621 0.1769 18 0.1538 0.4338 USERFACTOR2 117 18 0.1538 1.6853 0.6487 30 0.2564 0.7295 USERFACTOR3 117 15 0.1282 1.4048 0.8791 30 0.2564 1.0761 USERFACTOR4 117 19 0.1624 1.7795 0.8453 29 0.2479 0.7184 USERFACTOR5 166 22 0.1325 1.4519 0.6729 40 0.241 0.8066 WEIGHTEDFIG 117 13 0.1111 1.2174 0.6115 26 0.2222 0.6265 WILLTOWIN 146 18 0.1233 1.3511 0.7301 34 0.2329 0.8692 WOBRILL 123 14 0.1138 1.247 0.987 23 0.187 0.9146 **************************************************************************************** 74 Factors from file: C:\BreedersCupHistory\BC2\pl_BreedersCup_00-08.txt **************************************************************************************** ~ ~ ~ ~ **************************************************************************************** Key Factors Rank = 1 sorted by Impact Value Run Date: 11/4/2009 9:50:46 AM **************************************************************************************** WIN WIN WIN PLACE PLACE FACTOR PLAYS WINS PCT IMPACT ROI PLACES PCT ROI **************************************************************************************** BETTORSTOTEPROB 117 38 0.3248 3.559 0.9953 51 0.4359 0.8654 JPRTOTEPROB 117 37 0.3162 3.4648 0.9423 52 0.4444 0.8752 POST TIME FAVS 123 38 0.3089 3.3848 0.9069 56 0.4553 0.9004 MORNINGLINE 118 35 0.2966 3.25 0.8555 51 0.4322 0.8657 UPRTOTEPROB 117 33 0.2821 3.0911 0.8714 44 0.3761 0.7368 CONSISTENCY 117 26 0.2222 2.4348 0.9282 37 0.3162 0.7859 PCLASS 118 26 0.2203 2.414 0.9568 40 0.339 0.8627 CLASSCONSENSUS 125 26 0.208 2.2792 0.8224 37 0.296 0.7376 AVGBRISFIG 121 25 0.2066 2.2638 0.7302 38 0.314 0.7851 COMPOUNDSP 117 23 0.1966 2.1543 0.8829 36 0.3077 0.8868 UPRMLPROB 117 23 0.1966 2.1543 0.738 33 0.2821 0.6573 UPR 117 22 0.188 2.06 0.8466 32 0.2735 0.7479 COMPOUNDAP 117 21 0.1795 1.9669 0.8504 36 0.3077 0.9128 QRATING 117 21 0.1795 1.9669 0.744 36 0.3077 1.0094 PRATING 117 21 0.1795 1.9669 0.7543 34 0.2906 0.8009 FIGCONSENSUS 124 22 0.1774 1.9439 0.6202 36 0.2903 0.7004 JPRCLASS 117 20 0.1709 1.8727 0.6444 31 0.265 0.6705 JPRMLPROB 117 20 0.1709 1.8727 0.5868 33 0.2821 0.6342 LASTRACEBRISFIG 140 23 0.1643 1.8003 0.645 40 0.2857 0.8389 USERFACTOR4 117 19 0.1624 1.7795 0.8453 29 0.2479 0.7184 BRIS10 149 24 0.1611 1.7653 0.6419 34 0.2282 0.5674 POWERCONSENSUS 126 20 0.1587 1.739 0.7087 31 0.246 0.621 SUSTAINED 133 21 0.1579 1.7302 0.7707 28 0.2105 0.5515 PACELINE 148 23 0.1554 1.7028 0.552 43 0.2905 0.7139 AFR 117 18 0.1538 1.6853 1.6432 30 0.2564 1.2171 JPR 117 18 0.1538 1.6853 0.5427 33 0.2821 0.6397 COMPOUNDLATE 117 18 0.1538 1.6853 0.6594 23 0.1966 0.6214 COMPOUNDTT 117 18 0.1538 1.6853 1.0021 35 0.2991 1.0406 USERFACTOR2 117 18 0.1538 1.6853 0.6487 30 0.2564 0.7295 BRIS3 140 21 0.15 1.6436 0.5043 35 0.25 0.5889 FASTSLOWFINAL 169 25 0.1479 1.6206 0.6201 42 0.2485 0.7595 LATESLANT 118 17 0.1441 1.579 0.5699 24 0.2034 0.4678 PACEFIG 119 17 0.1429 1.5658 1.0021 36 0.3025 1.229 PAL 128 18 0.1406 1.5406 0.652 29 0.2266 0.7242 TPACE 123 17 0.1382 1.5143 0.8654 32 0.2602 1.0451 JRATING 118 16 0.1356 1.4859 0.561 32 0.2712 0.7767 FORMCONSENSUS 128 17 0.1328 1.4552 1.6648 29 0.2266 1.2188 USERFACTOR5 166 22 0.1325 1.4519 0.6729 40 0.241 0.8066 CLASSCOMPOS 124 16 0.129 1.4135 0.6056 31 0.25 0.9504 USERFACTOR3 117 15 0.1282 1.4048 0.8791 30 0.2564 1.0761 ALCHEMY 117 15 0.1282 1.4048 0.5291 26 0.2222 0.5466 PMI 117 15 0.1282 1.4048 0.988 25 0.2137 0.6363 COMPOUNDE2 117 15 0.1282 1.4048 0.7611 32 0.2735 1.1073 CFA 117 15 0.1282 1.4048 0.4744 30 0.2564 0.6175 WILLTOWIN 146 18 0.1233 1.3511 0.7301 34 0.2329 0.8692 LATECONSENSUS 124 15 0.121 1.3259 0.5254 26 0.2097 0.6839 PRIME 233 28 0.1202 1.3171 0.97 59 0.2532 0.9903 STAMINA 118 14 0.1186 1.2996 1.1623 25 0.2119 0.9559 LOGICALFIG 120 14 0.1167 1.2788 0.75 30 0.25 0.9388 WOBRILL 123 14 0.1138 1.247 0.987 23 0.187 0.9146 EARLYCONSENSUS 125 14 0.112 1.2273 0.844 30 0.24 1.0512 WEIGHTEDFIG 117 13 0.1111 1.2174 0.6115 26 0.2222 0.6265 COMPOUNDPERCENTE 117 13 0.1111 1.2174 1.1316 25 0.2137 1.1098 LATEPACEINLAST 126 14 0.1111 1.2174 0.4853 26 0.2063 0.6556 RACESTRENGTH 117 13 0.1111 1.2174 0.4261 22 0.188 0.6043 FASTSLOWPACE 156 17 0.109 1.1944 1.1157 40 0.2564 1.4381 LATEPACE3 257 27 0.1051 1.1516 0.6714 52 0.2023 0.9533 PACEFIG_4F_INLAST 124 13 0.1048 1.1484 0.827 33 0.2661 1.2786 COMPOUNDE1 117 12 0.1026 1.1243 0.6359 27 0.2308 0.9774 PACEFIT 117 12 0.1026 1.1243 0.6359 26 0.2222 0.9551 QSPEEDPOINTS 300 30 0.1 1.0958 1.0017 58 0.1933 1.0113 OPTIMIZATION 133 13 0.0977 1.0706 0.5647 26 0.1955 0.7891 PEDIGREE 253 24 0.0949 1.0399 0.949 49 0.1937 1.0136 CMI 117 11 0.094 1.03 0.5731 24 0.2051 0.791 CXN 117 10 0.0855 0.9369 0.6073 32 0.2735 1.2718 FORM 129 11 0.0853 0.9347 0.507 23 0.1783 0.6271 TURNTIME 124 10 0.0806 0.8832 0.6258 24 0.1935 0.769 CLOSINGRATIO 125 9 0.072 0.7889 0.3656 18 0.144 0.6468 AVGE1 127 9 0.0709 0.7769 0.622 21 0.1654 0.6043 CPACE 118 8 0.0678 0.7429 0.5492 19 0.161 0.5657 BESTE2 124 8 0.0645 0.7068 0.1988 25 0.2016 0.8524 PACEFIG_2F_INLAST 133 8 0.0602 0.6596 0.7395 27 0.203 1.059 PCTE 125 7 0.056 0.6136 0.6872 17 0.136 0.5532 USERFACTOR1 117 6 0.0513 0.5621 0.1769 18 0.1538 0.4338 **************************************************************************************** 74 Factors from file: C:\BreedersCupHistory\BC2\pl_BreedersCup_00-08.txt **************************************************************************************** ~ ~ ~ ~ **************************************************************************************** Key Factors Rank = 1 sorted by Win ROI Run Date: 11/4/2009 9:50:46 AM **************************************************************************************** WIN WIN WIN PLACE PLACE FACTOR PLAYS WINS PCT IMPACT ROI PLACES PCT ROI **************************************************************************************** FORMCONSENSUS 128 17 0.1328 1.4552 1.6648 29 0.2266 1.2188 AFR 117 18 0.1538 1.6853 1.6432 30 0.2564 1.2171 STAMINA 118 14 0.1186 1.2996 1.1623 25 0.2119 0.9559 COMPOUNDPERCENTE 117 13 0.1111 1.2174 1.1316 25 0.2137 1.1098 FASTSLOWPACE 156 17 0.109 1.1944 1.1157 40 0.2564 1.4381 PACEFIG 119 17 0.1429 1.5658 1.0021 36 0.3025 1.229 COMPOUNDTT 117 18 0.1538 1.6853 1.0021 35 0.2991 1.0406 QSPEEDPOINTS 300 30 0.1 1.0958 1.0017 58 0.1933 1.0113 BETTORSTOTEPROB 117 38 0.3248 3.559 0.9953 51 0.4359 0.8654 PMI 117 15 0.1282 1.4048 0.988 25 0.2137 0.6363 WOBRILL 123 14 0.1138 1.247 0.987 23 0.187 0.9146 PRIME 233 28 0.1202 1.3171 0.97 59 0.2532 0.9903 PCLASS 118 26 0.2203 2.414 0.9568 40 0.339 0.8627 PEDIGREE 253 24 0.0949 1.0399 0.949 49 0.1937 1.0136 JPRTOTEPROB 117 37 0.3162 3.4648 0.9423 52 0.4444 0.8752 CONSISTENCY 117 26 0.2222 2.4348 0.9282 37 0.3162 0.7859 POST TIME FAVS 123 38 0.3089 3.3848 0.9069 56 0.4553 0.9004 COMPOUNDSP 117 23 0.1966 2.1543 0.8829 36 0.3077 0.8868 USERFACTOR3 117 15 0.1282 1.4048 0.8791 30 0.2564 1.0761 UPRTOTEPROB 117 33 0.2821 3.0911 0.8714 44 0.3761 0.7368 TPACE 123 17 0.1382 1.5143 0.8654 32 0.2602 1.0451 MORNINGLINE 118 35 0.2966 3.25 0.8555 51 0.4322 0.8657 COMPOUNDAP 117 21 0.1795 1.9669 0.8504 36 0.3077 0.9128 UPR 117 22 0.188 2.06 0.8466 32 0.2735 0.7479 USERFACTOR4 117 19 0.1624 1.7795 0.8453 29 0.2479 0.7184 EARLYCONSENSUS 125 14 0.112 1.2273 0.844 30 0.24 1.0512 PACEFIG_4F_INLAST 124 13 0.1048 1.1484 0.827 33 0.2661 1.2786 CLASSCONSENSUS 125 26 0.208 2.2792 0.8224 37 0.296 0.7376 SUSTAINED 133 21 0.1579 1.7302 0.7707 28 0.2105 0.5515 COMPOUNDE2 117 15 0.1282 1.4048 0.7611 32 0.2735 1.1073 PRATING 117 21 0.1795 1.9669 0.7543 34 0.2906 0.8009 LOGICALFIG 120 14 0.1167 1.2788 0.75 30 0.25 0.9388 QRATING 117 21 0.1795 1.9669 0.744 36 0.3077 1.0094 PACEFIG_2F_INLAST 133 8 0.0602 0.6596 0.7395 27 0.203 1.059 UPRMLPROB 117 23 0.1966 2.1543 0.738 33 0.2821 0.6573 AVGBRISFIG 121 25 0.2066 2.2638 0.7302 38 0.314 0.7851 WILLTOWIN 146 18 0.1233 1.3511 0.7301 34 0.2329 0.8692 POWERCONSENSUS 126 20 0.1587 1.739 0.7087 31 0.246 0.621 PCTE 125 7 0.056 0.6136 0.6872 17 0.136 0.5532 USERFACTOR5 166 22 0.1325 1.4519 0.6729 40 0.241 0.8066 LATEPACE3 257 27 0.1051 1.1516 0.6714 52 0.2023 0.9533 COMPOUNDLATE 117 18 0.1538 1.6853 0.6594 23 0.1966 0.6214 PAL 128 18 0.1406 1.5406 0.652 29 0.2266 0.7242 USERFACTOR2 117 18 0.1538 1.6853 0.6487 30 0.2564 0.7295 LASTRACEBRISFIG 140 23 0.1643 1.8003 0.645 40 0.2857 0.8389 JPRCLASS 117 20 0.1709 1.8727 0.6444 31 0.265 0.6705 BRIS10 149 24 0.1611 1.7653 0.6419 34 0.2282 0.5674 COMPOUNDE1 117 12 0.1026 1.1243 0.6359 27 0.2308 0.9774 PACEFIT 117 12 0.1026 1.1243 0.6359 26 0.2222 0.9551 TURNTIME 124 10 0.0806 0.8832 0.6258 24 0.1935 0.769 AVGE1 127 9 0.0709 0.7769 0.622 21 0.1654 0.6043 FIGCONSENSUS 124 22 0.1774 1.9439 0.6202 36 0.2903 0.7004 FASTSLOWFINAL 169 25 0.1479 1.6206 0.6201 42 0.2485 0.7595 WEIGHTEDFIG 117 13 0.1111 1.2174 0.6115 26 0.2222 0.6265 CXN 117 10 0.0855 0.9369 0.6073 32 0.2735 1.2718 CLASSCOMPOS 124 16 0.129 1.4135 0.6056 31 0.25 0.9504 JPRMLPROB 117 20 0.1709 1.8727 0.5868 33 0.2821 0.6342 CMI 117 11 0.094 1.03 0.5731 24 0.2051 0.791 LATESLANT 118 17 0.1441 1.579 0.5699 24 0.2034 0.4678 OPTIMIZATION 133 13 0.0977 1.0706 0.5647 26 0.1955 0.7891 JRATING 118 16 0.1356 1.4859 0.561 32 0.2712 0.7767 PACELINE 148 23 0.1554 1.7028 0.552 43 0.2905 0.7139 CPACE 118 8 0.0678 0.7429 0.5492 19 0.161 0.5657 JPR 117 18 0.1538 1.6853 0.5427 33 0.2821 0.6397 ALCHEMY 117 15 0.1282 1.4048 0.5291 26 0.2222 0.5466 LATECONSENSUS 124 15 0.121 1.3259 0.5254 26 0.2097 0.6839 FORM 129 11 0.0853 0.9347 0.507 23 0.1783 0.6271 BRIS3 140 21 0.15 1.6436 0.5043 35 0.25 0.5889 LATEPACEINLAST 126 14 0.1111 1.2174 0.4853 26 0.2063 0.6556 CFA 117 15 0.1282 1.4048 0.4744 30 0.2564 0.6175 RACESTRENGTH 117 13 0.1111 1.2174 0.4261 22 0.188 0.6043 CLOSINGRATIO 125 9 0.072 0.7889 0.3656 18 0.144 0.6468 BESTE2 124 8 0.0645 0.7068 0.1988 25 0.2016 0.8524 USERFACTOR1 117 6 0.0513 0.5621 0.1769 18 0.1538 0.4338 **************************************************************************************** 74 Factors from file: C:\BreedersCupHistory\BC2\pl_BreedersCup_00-08.txt **************************************************************************************** ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ **************************************************************************************** BY RIDER sorted by wins Run Date: 11/4/2009 9:59:27 AM **************************************************************************************** WIN WIN WIN PLACE PLACE UDM PLAYS WINS PCT IMPACT ROI PLACES PCT ROI **************************************************************************************** VELAZQUEZ J R 82 13 0.1585 1.7368 1.3848 25 0.3049 1.1476 GOMEZ G K 51 10 0.1961 2.1488 1.1255 17 0.3333 1.1049 BAILEY J D 48 7 0.1458 1.5976 0.8146 15 0.3125 0.8833 DETTORI LANFRANCO 40 6 0.15 1.6436 1.68 9 0.225 1.4625 VELASQUEZ CORNELIO 31 5 0.1613 1.7675 2.5758 7 0.2258 1.4032 FLORES D R 27 5 0.1852 2.0294 2.6889 6 0.2222 1.2333 SMITH M E 31 5 0.1613 1.7675 0.4645 9 0.2903 0.8194 PRADO E S 62 4 0.0645 0.7068 0.5524 11 0.1774 1.2161 SOLIS A 37 4 0.1081 1.1845 0.7649 7 0.1892 0.6351 MCCARRON C J 12 3 0.25 2.7394 1.7208 4 0.3333 1.3667 STEVENS G L 28 3 0.1071 1.1736 0.6714 5 0.1786 0.6339 KINANE M J 24 3 0.125 1.3697 0.5542 7 0.2917 0.8688 ESPINOZA V 49 3 0.0612 0.6706 1.3204 7 0.1429 0.9327 VALENZUELA P A 26 3 0.1154 1.2645 2.1654 3 0.1154 0.95 ALBARADO R J 28 3 0.1071 1.1736 0.4607 3 0.1071 0.2214 SANTOS J A 19 2 0.1053 1.1538 2.4737 2 0.1053 0.7947 LEPAROUX JULIEN R 20 2 0.1 1.0958 0.975 4 0.2 1.205 BEJARANO R 37 2 0.0541 0.5928 0.5838 5 0.1351 0.4595 CASTELLANO J J 20 2 0.1 1.0958 0.295 4 0.2 0.495 NAKATANI C S 34 2 0.0588 0.6443 0.5853 6 0.1765 0.7794 DESORMEAUX K J 41 2 0.0488 0.5347 0.178 7 0.1707 0.7976 FALLON KIEREN 10 2 0.2 2.1915 0.58 3 0.3 1.22 PESLIER O 7 2 0.2857 3.1306 1.4 2 0.2857 0.9429 BOREL C H 7 1 0.1429 1.5658 2.3143 1 0.1429 0.9 CASTRO E 11 1 0.0909 0.996 2.3 2 0.1818 1.2182 THERIOT H J II 5 1 0.2 2.1915 0.76 1 0.2 0.36 BEASLEY J A 2 1 0.5 5.4788 19.5 1 0.5 7.4 DOMINGUEZ R A 25 1 0.04 0.4383 1.156 5 0.2 1.968 COA E M 23 1 0.0435 0.4767 0.6913 1 0.0435 0.287 FARINA TONY 5 1 0.2 2.1915 2 2 0.4 1.06 KRONE J A 6 1 0.1667 1.8266 0.55 1 0.1667 0.4 LEZCANO JOSE 6 1 0.1667 1.8266 2.0167 3 0.5 1.8167 MURTAGH JOHN P 18 1 0.0556 0.6092 0.3111 5 0.2778 0.9333 COURT J K 8 1 0.125 1.3697 0.7625 1 0.125 0.35 VALDIVIA J JR 14 1 0.0714 0.7824 0.4357 1 0.0714 0.2286 FRAZIER R L 2 1 0.5 5.4788 13.85 1 0.5 4.55 MOORE RYAN L 2 1 0.5 5.4788 3.4 1 0.5 2.1 DOUGLAS R R 14 1 0.0714 0.7824 0.2571 1 0.0714 0.1643 DAY P 31 1 0.0323 0.3539 0.429 5 0.1613 0.6226 MIGLIORE R 15 1 0.0667 0.7309 2.5 1 0.0667 1.0267 GARCIA A 11 1 0.0909 0.996 1.1545 1 0.0909 0.5182 ROSE J 4 1 0.25 2.7394 1.1 4 1 7.1 SMULLEN P J 8 1 0.125 1.3697 1.675 1 0.125 0.675 BRIDGMOHAN S X 12 1 0.0833 0.9128 0.1083 2 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0 0 JONES MARTIN F 1 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 SCOTT JOAN 1 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 HUBLEY MARK 1 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 YOUNG BOB 1 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 SHEENA KAMEL S 1 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 HESS R B JR 2 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 HILLS TIMOTHY A 3 0 0 0 0 1 0.3333 0.8 BARBARA ROBERT 1 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 WIGGINS HAL 1 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 SHUMAN MARK 7 0 0 0 0 1 0.1429 0.5286 ELLIS RONALD W 2 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 MANNING DENNIS J 1 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 REYNOLDS PATRICK J 4 0 0 0 0 1 0.25 0.625 SKIFFINGTON THOMAS J1 0 0 0 0 1 1 5.7 CENICOLA LEWIS A 1 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 BECERRA RAFAEL 2 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 KNIGHT TERRY 1 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 DESORMEAUX J KEITH 2 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 KITCHINGMAN ADAM 1 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 LEGGIO ANDREW JR 4 0 0 0 0 1 0.25 1.775 GALLUSCIO DOMINICK 1 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 BARNETT BOBBY C 2 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 MULHALL KRISTIN 2 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 COLLET ROBERT 2 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 PEERY CHUCK 1 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 MILLER PETER 1 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 SIMON CHARLES 1 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 VIOLETTE RICHARD JR 5 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 GUILLOT ERIC 4 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 POLANCO MARCELO 5 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 *PEASE J E 1 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 OXX JOHN M 2 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 MITCHELL MIKE 10 0 0 0 0 4 0.4 1.4 BEATTIE TODD M 2 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 BUTLER GERARD A 1 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 SULLIVAN LYNN 1 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 HUSHION MICHAEL E 1 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 ROMANS DALE 7 0 0 0 0 2 0.2857 0.7857 BAILES W ROBERT 1 0 0 0 0 1 1 1.7 PENNA ANGEL JR 2 0 0 0 0 1 0.5 4.4 BUSH THOMAS M 1 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 MITCHELL ANTHONY 1 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 VELLA DANIEL J 1 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 HOUGH STANLEY M 3 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 GILCHRIST GREG 2 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 SISE CLIFFORD JR 2 0 0 0 0 1 0.5 1.65 DUNN STEPHEN D 1 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 BYRNE PATRICK B 2 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 BENSON MACDONALD 1 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 *CECIL H R A 1 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 GAINES CARLA 5 0 0 0 0 2 0.4 1.48 HENDRICKS DAN L 3 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 WACHMAN D 3 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 ARNOLD GEORGE R II 1 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 FOLEY VICKIE L 1 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 **************************************************************************************** 348 Trainers from file: C:\BreedersCupHistory\BC2\pl_BreedersCup_00-08.txt 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By: 21 TheOdds ~ >=Min < Max Gain Bet Roi Wins Plays Pct 0.00 0.00 0.00 0.00 0.0000 0 0 .0000 0.00 0.50 -1.40 4.00 0.6500 1 2 .5000 0.50 1.00 -8.50 30.00 0.7167 6 15 .4000 1.00 1.50 -10.80 30.00 0.6400 4 15 .2667 1.50 2.00 7.90 40.00 1.1975 9 20 .4500 2.00 2.50 6.30 64.00 1.0984 11 32 .3438 2.50 3.00 -9.80 76.00 0.8711 9 38 .2368 3.00 3.50 -17.60 60.00 0.7067 5 30 .1667 3.50 4.00 -51.00 88.00 0.4205 4 44 .0909 4.00 4.50 -61.00 82.00 0.2561 2 41 .0488 4.50 5.00 -7.20 70.00 0.8971 6 35 .1714 5.00 5.50 -8.20 70.00 0.8829 5 35 .1429 5.50 6.00 32.60 48.00 1.6792 6 24 .2500 6.00 6.50 -16.80 60.00 0.7200 3 30 .1000 6.50 7.00 -6.80 38.00 0.8211 2 19 .1053 7.00 7.50 -35.60 52.00 0.3154 1 26 .0385 7.50 8.00 -30.20 48.00 0.3708 1 24 .0417 8.00 8.50 0.80 54.00 1.0148 3 27 .1111 8.50 9.00 -38.40 58.00 0.3379 1 29 .0345 9.00 9999.00 22.90 1614.00 1.0142 39 807 .0483
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jeff 11/4/2009 1:40:09 PM | My BC strategy - a high level look...
More often than not Breeder's Cup means big fields, contention that runs deep, lots of interest from casual players, and very large pools. These elements work to present us with opportunities that don't exist on a typical Saturday race card.
The numbers speak for themselves. Over the past 9 years, a flat $2.00 win bet on every CLEAN starter in every race on both Breeder's Cup days would have returned a 0.93 roi. A flat $2.00 win bet on every starter with no handicapping whatsoever would have returned 91 cents for every $1.00 bet. That's about 16 cents per dollar higher than racing in general - something I find significant.
Over the years my BC strategey has evolved into a willingness to go DEEP into races to identify CONTENDERS... coupled with a willingness to bet any contender provided the public doesn't like that contender.
The strategy could be defined as one that uses two rules:
1. Use minimal handicapping
2. Wait for and bet obvious public mistakes
I need to point out that this approach won't work on races in general... mainly because the elements of large deep fields combined with large pools fueled by money from casual fans is no longer present when you look at races in general.
But on BC day when these elements are present... I'll make the argument that a different strategy is called for.
-jp
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to be continued...
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jeff 11/4/2009 2:01:20 PM | BC Strategy continued - what works / what doesn't work / and why...
Over the years on BC day the public has had a strong tendency to overbet final time based speed figs. At the same time the public has had a strong tendency to underbet form.
Here are all starters in the database broken out by both CFA and AFR:
query start: 11/4/2009 10:47:32 AM query end: 11/4/2009 10:47:34 AM elapsed time: 2 seconds
Data Window Settings: Divisor = 999 Odds Cap: None Surface: (ALL*) Distance: (All*) ( From Index File: C:\BreedersCupHistory\BC2\pl_BreedersCup_00-08.txt ~ Data Summary Win Place Show Mutuel Totals 2353.20 2261.70 2152.40 Bet -2586.00 -2586.00 -2586.00 Gain -232.80 -324.30 -433.60 ~ Wins 118 234 351 Plays 1293 1293 1293 PCT .0913 .1810 .2715 ~ ROI 0.9100 0.8746 0.8323 Avg Mut 19.94 9.67 6.13 ~ ~ By: CFA Rank ~ Rank Gain Bet Roi Wins Plays Pct Impact 1 -123.00 234.00 0.4744 15 117 .1282 1.4048 2 -105.20 236.00 0.5542 13 118 .1102 1.2072 3 -101.90 254.00 0.5988 10 127 .0787 0.8628 4 -29.00 236.00 0.8771 11 118 .0932 1.0215 5 19.40 238.00 1.0815 11 119 .0924 1.0129 6 64.20 234.00 1.2744 11 117 .0940 1.0302 7 68.80 224.00 1.3071 14 112 .1250 1.3697 8 -134.60 200.00 0.3270 4 100 .0400 0.4383 9 -88.20 218.00 0.5954 7 109 .0642 0.7037 10 196.00 176.00 2.1136 13 88 .1477 1.6187 11 59.00 184.00 1.3207 6 92 .0652 0.7146 12 -8.30 102.00 0.9186 3 51 .0588 0.6446 13 -40.00 40.00 0.0000 0 20 .0000 0.0000 14 -10.00 10.00 0.0000 0 5 .0000 0.0000 ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ By: AFR Rank ~ Rank Gain Bet Roi Wins Plays Pct Impact 1 150.50 234.00 1.6432 18 117 .1538 1.6858 2 97.10 234.00 1.4150 19 117 .1624 1.7794 3 -4.70 236.00 0.9801 15 118 .1271 1.3929 4 -53.40 232.00 0.7698 9 116 .0776 0.8502 5 -159.80 238.00 0.3286 6 119 .0504 0.5525 6 -15.40 226.00 0.9319 7 113 .0619 0.6788 7 -118.40 222.00 0.4667 6 111 .0541 0.5923 8 51.00 214.00 1.2383 11 107 .1028 1.1265 9 -66.00 196.00 0.6633 7 98 .0714 0.7827 10 -13.40 178.00 0.9247 8 89 .0899 0.9850 11 -25.60 148.00 0.8270 5 74 .0676 0.7404 12 -5.90 118.00 0.9500 5 59 .0847 0.9286 13 -42.80 84.00 0.4905 2 42 .0476 0.5218 14 -26.00 26.00 0.0000 0 13 .0000 0.0000
Notice that the win rates for both factors follow the general trend of being higher the better the horse is rated by that factor.
However, the public appears overly focused on final time based speed figs. As a result, the avg win mutuel from horses showing the best speed figs is NOT where I'll be looking for overlays.
-jp
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to be continued...
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jeff 11/4/2009 2:17:14 PM | Here are all starters in my BC database where E~BettorsToteProb is greater than or equal to 1.0... which represents theoretical overlays in the Live Play Module...
The data is broken out by a handful of factors that I've found to be a good source of both hidden and obvious positives on BC day:
query start: 11/4/2009 10:43:38 AM query end: 11/4/2009 10:43:40 AM elapsed time: 2 seconds ~ Data Window Settings: E~ BettorsToteProb >= 1.00 Odds Cap: None Surface: (ALL*) Distance: (All*) From Index File: C:\BreedersCupHistory\BC2\pl_BreedersCup_00-08.txt
~ Data Summary Win Place Show Mutuel Totals 1292.40 1182.50 1120.60 Bet -1382.00 -1382.00 -1382.00 Gain -89.60 -199.50 -261.40 ~ Wins 34 78 133 Plays 691 691 691 PCT .0492 .1129 .1925 ~ ROI 0.9352 0.8556 0.8109 Avg Mut 38.01 15.16 8.43 ~ ~ By: AFR Rank ~ Rank Gain Bet Roi Wins Plays Pct Impact 1 152.50 156.00 1.9776 8 78 .1026 2.0845 2 94.00 152.00 1.6184 8 76 .1053 2.1393 3 -23.00 140.00 0.8357 3 70 .0429 0.8710 4 5.40 126.00 1.0429 4 63 .0635 1.2904 5 -136.00 136.00 0.0000 0 68 .0000 0.0000 6 14.80 122.00 1.1213 3 61 .0492 0.9995 7 -69.40 128.00 0.4578 1 64 .0156 0.3176 8 17.60 116.00 1.1517 2 58 .0345 0.7008 9 -9.00 106.00 0.9151 4 53 .0755 1.5339 10 -58.00 58.00 0.0000 0 29 .0000 0.0000 11 -58.00 58.00 0.0000 0 29 .0000 0.0000 12 23.50 40.00 1.5875 1 20 .0500 1.0162 13 -32.00 32.00 0.0000 0 16 .0000 0.0000 14 -12.00 12.00 0.0000 0 6 .0000 0.0000 15 0.00 0.00 0.0000 0 0 .0000 0.0000 16 0.00 0.00 0.0000 0 0 .0000 0.0000 17 0.00 0.00 0.0000 0 0 .0000 0.0000 18 0.00 0.00 0.0000 0 0 .0000 0.0000 19 0.00 0.00 0.0000 0 0 .0000 0.0000
~ ~ ~ ~ ~ By: JPR Rank ~ Rank Gain Bet Roi Wins Plays Pct Impact 1 -75.30 116.00 0.3509 3 58 .0517 1.0512 2 49.40 144.00 1.3431 8 72 .1111 2.2582 3 40.20 134.00 1.3000 5 67 .0746 1.5167 4 53.20 134.00 1.3970 4 67 .0597 1.2133 5 -71.80 126.00 0.4302 2 63 .0317 0.6452 6 109.00 132.00 1.8258 5 66 .0758 1.5397 7 -71.00 142.00 0.5000 2 71 .0282 0.5725 8 19.60 114.00 1.1719 2 57 .0351 0.7131 9 -92.00 92.00 0.0000 0 46 .0000 0.0000 10 45.60 88.00 1.5182 2 44 .0455 0.9238 11 -66.00 66.00 0.0000 0 33 .0000 0.0000 12 -48.00 48.00 0.0000 0 24 .0000 0.0000 13 29.50 34.00 1.8676 1 17 .0588 1.1955 14 -12.00 12.00 0.0000 0 6 .0000 0.0000
~ ~ ~ ~ ~ By: QRating Rank ~ Rank Gain Bet Roi Wins Plays Pct Impact 1 -54.10 118.00 0.5415 5 59 .0847 1.7223 2 39.40 112.00 1.3518 4 56 .0714 1.4517 3 128.80 132.00 1.9758 6 66 .0909 1.8476 4 -69.40 130.00 0.4662 3 65 .0462 0.9380 5 53.00 150.00 1.3533 6 75 .0800 1.6259 6 47.20 126.00 1.3746 3 63 .0476 0.9678 7 -35.00 122.00 0.7131 2 61 .0328 0.6663 8 -118.00 118.00 0.0000 0 59 .0000 0.0000 9 -29.00 104.00 0.7212 1 52 .0192 0.3908 10 -40.40 96.00 0.5792 1 48 .0208 0.4234 11 2.00 76.00 1.0263 1 38 .0263 0.5348 12 -25.60 46.00 0.4435 1 23 .0435 0.8836 13 21.50 42.00 1.5119 1 21 .0476 0.9678 14 -10.00 10.00 0.0000 0 5 .0000 0.0000 ~ ~ ~ ~ ~
By: CFA Rank ~ Rank Gain Bet Roi Wins Plays Pct Impact 1 -83.30 124.00 0.3282 3 62 .0484 0.9834 2 -77.40 154.00 0.4974 5 77 .0649 1.3197 3 -38.60 164.00 0.7646 5 82 .0610 1.2392 4 24.00 114.00 1.2105 3 57 .0526 1.0697 5 0.60 138.00 1.0043 3 69 .0435 0.8836 6 39.60 130.00 1.3046 3 65 .0462 0.9380 7 4.60 118.00 1.0390 3 59 .0508 1.0334 8 -60.20 90.00 0.3311 1 45 .0222 0.4516 9 -116.00 116.00 0.0000 0 58 .0000 0.0000 10 158.60 76.00 3.0868 5 38 .1316 2.6741 11 71.00 82.00 1.8659 2 41 .0488 0.9914 12 17.50 46.00 1.3804 1 23 .0435 0.8836 13 -26.00 26.00 0.0000 0 13 .0000 0.0000 14 -4.00 4.00 0.0000 0 2 .0000 0.0000
Notice where the opportunity for profit exists?
1. With the top AFR horses.
2. Not with the top ranked power rating horses... but with ranks 2-6.
3. Not with the top ranked speed fig horses... but with ranks 4-7.
I have a handful of simple BC UDMs based on the above.
Again - keep it simple... Don't over handicap. Instead, identify and bet obvious public mistakes.
BC has been one of the few days each year where large deep fields combined with huge pools fueled by money from casual players has historically created some very unique wagering opportunities.
Good Luck to you,
-jp
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ArlJim78 11/4/2009 3:22:01 PM | great information Jeff. thanks.
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bettheoverlay 11/4/2009 7:07:11 PM | The new FormConsensus factor ranked 1-3 won 7 of the 9 synthetic stakes at Santa Anita last year on the 2 Breeders Cup days. Also R1 tagged Desert Code in the turf sprint. PClass R1-5 won 6 of the 8 turf routes and R1 tagged RavensPass in the Classic. Consistency also good, as it and PClass will tag the Euro horses.
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Charlie James 11/7/2009 9:50:40 PM | Jeff,
I certainly hope you took some of your own advice :)
afr 1-4 with divisor = 1.2 produced 2 longshot winners on the bc card:
R4 Winner $52.60 $19.20 $12.00 Runner Up $13.20 $8.60 Show horse $9.20 $1 exa $227.90 $1 tri $2145.90
R7 Winner $44.60 $18.40 $9.60
All I can say is muchas gracias my friend,
Chuck
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capperlou 11/8/2009 12:47:59 PM | Charlie: I'll second your words and praise. I was intently watching AFR and thus it was a great day. I had the exacta in the 52+ winner race. Followed that up with the #2 44.60 winner with a saver on the #3 which finished 3rd. Thanks very much Jeff for providing the key factors info. It made the difference. Jcapper just keeps on amazing me at what it can do for those of us who USE IT instead of our old theories and methods from years back.
~Edited by: capperlou on: 11/8/2009 at: 12:47:59 PM~
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parshooter 11/9/2009 11:46:56 PM | Thank You Jeff. Really appreciate your assistance.
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