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| SILVER01HDW 12/5/2024 12:35:02 PM | Date: DEC 5 TRACK: GP RACE: 3 HORSE: 4-DUNDIE Please explain how this horse would get a Rank 6 for Factor Compound E1... Thank you ~Edited by: SILVER01HDW on: 12/5/2024 at: 12:35:02 PM~
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| Acorn54 12/5/2024 10:50:42 PM | i checked that horse on a different software with bris data file and it was ranked 6th for the E1 calculation there. i would think the rank you are getting with the jfactor software you have, closely resembles the same approach.
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| SILVER01HDW 12/6/2024 2:55:58 PM | Thx for confirming that .... Still doesn't make sense and that's why he wins at 7-1 He runs within a length of the fastest 1st and 2nd quarter of the day... Crack this and your on your way to winners ~Edited by: SILVER01HDW on: 12/6/2024 at: 2:55:58 PM~
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| Acorn54 12/6/2024 11:30:07 PM | the computation for first fraction has dundee ranked first. apparently there's more to E1 in jcapper, than a simple, fastest at first call. jeff would be the one to elaborate, if he so chooses.
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| jeff 12/17/2024 9:45:27 PM | --quote: "the computation for first fraction has dundee ranked first"--end quote Acorn, Can you explain exactly what you mean by computation for first fraction? Or better yet post your calculation? Silver01HDW, Can you pretend I'm a 5 year old... now THAT shouldn't be hard to do... and explain to me what you are looking at (pre-race) to suggest Dundee was the fastest or near fastest early horse in the race? Looking at individual running lines in the PPs and doing the math in my head, I have the top 5 fastest 2f fractions run by the horses in the race as follows: GPX 12-05-2024 R3 Unless I'm completely misinterpreting the question (always a possibility) that makes Dundee, what - the 5th best in the race if you go by the single fastest 2f fraction run by each horse? That said, Compound E1 is based on a weighted average of selected E1 Pace Figs from the horse's running lines. (Something very different from raw fractional time depending on methodology of the figure maker.) -jp .
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| Acorn54 12/17/2024 10:56:12 PM | i should have qualified my statement that i got the first fraction computation from a software named "race prophet", i did not personally look at the fractions,race prophet is a software pace approach designed by someone that went by the name, colt cannon. i downloaded it from the wayback archives. since you actually looked at the 1call your figs are true first call velocity figs. i should have actually looked at the pps, sorry for my previous post that were misleading. ~Edited by: Acorn54 on: 12/17/2024 at: 10:56:12 PM~
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| SILVER01HDW 12/20/2024 1:35:31 PM | Jeff .... In you example , your using raw numbers Heres what I get using numbers based on adjusted pace FPS #5 ZIO LORENZO......... 10Nov24GP`r10 ...59.34 #8 BEGANINGREENPOINT... 20Jul24GP`r9...59.26 #3 BLUE SPEARMAN....... 10Nov24GP`r10...58.88 #6 GRUMLEY............. 21Sep22PID`r3........58.63 #4 DUNDIE.............. 25Apr24GP6`r6..........59.31 As you see Dundie shouldn't be at the bottom using time
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| TomV 12/20/2024 6:16:59 PM | The ranking maybe because of the days off. The only race in the last 120 days was at 8.5F & the horse was next to last. Maybe there is a jcapper setting or algorithm that only goes back X number of days What is your enhanced setting for the Internal time calculation set to? ~Edited by: TomV on: 12/20/2024 at: 6:16:59 PM~
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| SILVER01HDW 12/20/2024 6:31:38 PM | Didn't matter Tony...thx I changed Days Back to 2 years (730) Still Rank 6 I also have paceline selection to 10 going back 999 days Apparently CompoundE1 has it own algorithm and I guess it can't be changed...Wish It could be user friendly
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