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mikejlb 7/30/2012 11:42:38 PM | Has anyone used a SSD drive working with JCapper? I am curious how much time would be saved rebuilding databases, queries, ect.. I started making a UPR a long time ago but quit after realizing how long it would take to rebuild after changes.
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Caveat 7/31/2012 7:04:52 AM | Hi Mike....
Actually , SSD's are real fast and should cut down your time 50% or better.... You need to install your operation system and jcp exe on it. No separating it on different drives. But beware of the fact that it can go bad at anytime. Maybe it was mine but at least 3 times my drive failed and there is NO WAY to recover info ..everything is gone!! I have the replacement drive sitting right in front of me for 3 months...I look at it and say.....YEAH-RIGHT-FAT-CHANCE!!
I used a OCZ Vertex 2...maybe you can go with a more reliable brand like IBM..but it will cost more.. I get all my stuff from Newegg to build...there are reviews galore...its up to you...GL
Mike
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rosenowsr 7/31/2012 11:00:33 AM | Hi Mike
I used a OCZ vertexII 40gb solid state drive, it was fast, but because of the small size, I switched over to a western digital 1TB drive, 7500 rpm with a 64 mb cache attached. My processing times doubled.
In a perfect setup,IMHO, is a big solid state drive and a big conventional drive. Use the solid state drive as the C drive and use the conventional hard drive as a backup. Also, I wouldn't just back up the C drive, I would 'clone' the C drive to the conventional hard drive weekly or monthly, whatever your comfortable with.
I never had trouble with the solid state drive, used it for almost 2 years. It was just filling up fast. Your mileage may vary, LOL
That's my 2cents worth.
Good luck in your endeavors.
Here is a chart comparing a hard drive to a SSD. http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/ssd-storage-value,3184-7.html
~Edited by: rosenowsr on: 7/31/2012 at: 11:00:33 AM~
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mikejlb 7/31/2012 11:55:15 AM | Thanks for the feedback, guys! I think that I would need about 80gb + a backup drive. A dual boot might make sense although cloning 100gb or less might be more practical. Software that does not need the speed could be installed to a 2nd HDD, right? I like testing JC ideas and the speed advantage of the SDD really makes sense to me.
I read about building a Raid drive with the SDD drives and that too might be worth considering if the prices continue to drop. The speed gain found with the Raid setup is really impressive and also adds extra protection for data.
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Caveat 8/14/2012 12:30:08 PM | An FYI..
I finally installed the 60 gig ssd...
if you want to check out how fast it is ...
i did an all-all-all for the period 7-1 to 8-14 with all tracks
it took 31 secs in playlist mode
code: | query start: 8/14/2012 1:23:54 PM query end: 8/14/2012 1:24:25 PM elapsed time: 31 seconds
Data Window Settings: 999 Divisor Odds Cap: None Surface: (ALL*) Distance: (All*) (From Index File: C:\2012\pL_profile.txt)
Data Summary Win Place Show Mutuel Totals 87253.70 87935.50 87113.00 Bet -116642.00-116642.00-116642.00 Gain -29388.30 -28706.50 -29529.00
Wins 7768 15448 22370 Plays 58321 58321 58321 PCT .1332 .2649 .3836
ROI 0.7480 0.7539 0.7468 Avg Mut 11.23 5.69 3.89
By: 21 TheOdds
>=Min < Max Gain Bet Roi Wins Plays Pct 0.00 0.00 0.00 0.00 0.0000 0 0 .0000 0.00 0.50 -147.10 852.00 0.8273 272 426 .6385 0.50 1.00 -442.60 3444.00 0.8715 868 1722 .5041 1.00 1.50 -863.80 4846.00 0.8217 904 2423 .3731 1.50 2.00 -904.00 5434.00 0.8336 843 2717 .3103 2.00 2.50 -979.30 5680.00 0.8276 736 2840 .2592 2.50 3.00 -1085.70 5274.00 0.7941 569 2637 .2158 3.00 3.50 -757.90 5046.00 0.8498 513 2523 .2033 3.50 4.00 -760.40 4490.00 0.8306 397 2245 .1768 4.00 4.50 -759.80 4100.00 0.8147 322 2050 .1571 4.50 5.00 -455.50 3576.00 0.8726 275 1788 .1538 5.00 5.50 -961.90 3328.00 0.7110 191 1664 .1148 5.50 6.00 -491.20 3100.00 0.8415 195 1550 .1258 6.00 6.50 -339.80 2894.00 0.8826 178 1447 .1230 6.50 7.00 -360.20 2722.00 0.8677 154 1361 .1132 7.00 7.50 -591.20 2688.00 0.7801 128 1344 .0952 7.50 8.00 -496.90 2378.00 0.7910 108 1189 .0908 8.00 8.50 -619.50 2272.00 0.7273 90 1136 .0792 8.50 9.00 -509.00 2120.00 0.7599 83 1060 .0783 9.00 9999.00 -17862.50 52398.00 0.6591 942 26199 .0360
Ending BankRoll: $39.70 Starting BankRoll: $500.00 High BankRoll: $772.80 Low BankRoll: $39.70 Longest Losing Streak: 21.00 Bet Percentage: 0.0250 Max Bet: 500.00
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~Edited by: Caveat on: 8/14/2012 at: 12:30:08 PM~
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mikejlb 9/8/2012 1:45:44 PM | I installed a 120gb OCZ Vertex 4 SSD drive in my computer. The drive is SATA3 capable but my old motherboard is SATA2 at 300 gb/sec. My HDD drives are older SATA2 drives. I'm using Win XP on the old drive and I installed win7 on the SSD.
I started checking speed by rebuilding 2004 which has about 1/3 files that other years have. I use DRF files and rebuilt both sql & text file. The time was about 2 hours to rebuild 2004 on the SSD drive. The old drive takes about 10 to 12 hours for later years with about 3 times as much data....so it appears the ssd is about twice as fast rebuilding databases.
Last night I tested the SSD by "Running All UDMs" on a large pl_ text file and after 16 hours I stopped it because I knew it was much slower than the old drives. I just started running all udms on just 2011 tonight using the SSD drive and I'll compare the time using the HDD drive tomorrow. Calc Races on the HDD took 109 seconds this evening and the SSD time was 128 seconds.
I'm confused about the less than expected performance and the problem might be related to maintenance or lack of on the SSD drive. I changed my OS settings as advised and also checked that Trim was active and it is. I know that when I build a new computer with SATA3 that the speed could double from what I see today but something seems wrong besides that. Any suggestions will be appreciated.
Adding results after testing speed while running "Run All Udms" for 2011 on SSD drive and 2010 on HDD. The file size of 2011 pl_ text file is 482 mb and the file size for 2010 is 511 mb. The time to run all udm's on SSD for 2011 was 2 hours and 15 minutes. The time to run all udm's on HDD for 2010 was 1 hour 40 minutes. Something is wrong.
~Edited by: mikejlb on: 9/8/2012 at: 1:45:44 PM~
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Caveat 9/11/2012 7:23:35 AM | Mike..
Get the free benchmark tool AS SSD and run it...
My first results were in the 100's..then I did some tweaks and got 985...
There are articles on optimizing an SSD on the web...
You have to make some registry changes and also change a setting in your BIOS to get it up there..if your comfortable doing it...
mike
~Edited by: Caveat on: 9/11/2012 at: 7:23:35 AM~
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mikejlb 9/13/2012 5:55:06 PM | Thanks for the feedback on SSD. I have been doing some tweeks to get better performance but I'm still digging. I suspect that my 2gb ram is part of the problem as well as the outdated mother board. I don't want to waste money on changing ram because the money would be better spent on building a new computer that is capable of sata3 and with more ram.
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Caveat 9/14/2012 6:26:00 AM | Good idea Mike....
I've been using Newegg for 20 years for my parts and if you live near a Microcenter store and wait for sales , then you can put together a good rig for about 400-500....
http://www.microcenter.com/ http://www.newegg.com/Store/
mike
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